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Submission
from ALGAO:Scotland
Policy Team
Historic Scotland Room
2.9 Longmore House
Salisbury Place
Edinburgh
EH9 1SH
Dear Sirs
The Ancient
Monuments and Listed Buildings (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Consultation
and Draft Bill
ALGAO:Scotland
represents Local Authority and National Park archaeological services
in Scotland and is part of the UK-wide organisation, ALGAO:UK. We
welcome this opportunity to comment upon this Scottish Government
consultation and would like to offer the following comments.
General
Comments
We note that
the Bill is intended to address some of the gaps and weaknesses
that were identified during the stakeholder engagement process,
but within the context that the Scottish Government is keen to avoid
placing new burdens on owners of assets, businesses and local and
central government, as mentioned in the Purpose of Consultation
section. We also note that the Bill is intended to be seen as complementing
other work by the Scottish Government to streamline, simplify and
clarify the system for protecting and managing the historic environment.
We are aware of these other areas of work and we have expressed
concerns during consultation, particularly in relation to two elements
of this work - the replacement of SPP 23 by a proposed new consolidated
SPP; and the wording of the Joint Working Agreement with Local Authorities,
which did not originally include references to the important role
which local authorities have in managing and protecting undesignated
historic environment resources.
In general
we have no difficulties with what has been included in this draft
Bill, as it relates entirely to designated historic environment
matters. ALGAO Scotland members have no locus for dealing with Scheduled
Monuments, which are reserved to Scottish Ministers, but professionally
we welcome all of the proposed provisions in Part 2 of the draft
Bill in respect 2 of Scheduled Monuments. I append below detailed
comments on Sections of the Bill, where we consider that we have
a comment to offer.
We appreciate
that the Bill has been closely circumscribed to matters of amending
existing legislation in respect of designated historic environment
resources, but nonethless we take this opportunity to make comments
below in relation to our wider concerns about the way the processes
for protecting and managing undesignated historic environment resources
have been treated in recent work by the Scottish Government to streamline,
simplify and clarify the system of protection and management of
the historic environment. We are concerned that the protection and
management of the undesignated historic environment resource is
being marginalised, as most of the Scottish Government’s work in
recent times has been concentrated on improving the protection and
management of designated historic environment resources.
The opportunity
has not been taken in this Bill to give consideration to making
Sites and Monuments Record/Historic Environment Record Services
a statutory duty of local government. We understand that the Scottish
Government is anxious to avoid imposing a new burden on local government.
However we also understand that for the first time ever in Scotland
all Councils now voluntarily have in place arrangements for access
to a Sites and Monuments Record/Historic Environment Record Service
of their own. In our view, since this is now the position in Scotland,
there can be no argument that introducing such a duty would be a
new burden for local government. Having statutory Sites and Monuments
Records/Historic Environment Record Services would greatly help
to clarify a number of areas of our work, would help greatly towards
achieving standards for the provision and maintenance of such Services,
and would provide stability for the future.
Detailed
Comments on the Draft Provisions of the Bill
Section 2.
We particularly welcome the new offence of disturbance of a Scheduled
Monument. We note that the type of disturbance is clarified in Section
13 and would support this.
Section 4.
We particularly welcome the removal of the defence of ignorance.
This has long been a weakness in the Scheduled Monument legislation.
Section 5.
We believe that the increase in the level of the fine on summary
conviction is fully justified, and is not out of keeping with levels
of fines in other areas, such as fines for offences in relation
to wildlife and planning breaches.
Section 7.
We welcome the introduction of new powers in relation to the issuing
of stop notices and temporary stop notices. These are fully in keeping
with the way the planning legislation operates. Section 16. We are
very happy to support the extension of the meaning of a “monument”,
but we have some concerns about how this will work in practice,
as it may be difficult to define a boundary for some of the types
of sites mentioned, such as flint scatters and archaeological deposits.
We would welcome some clarification of how this might work in practice.
Section 17.
We fully support the provisions of Section 17. We are aware of some
repeat applications for Scheduled Monument Consent and fully understand
how this can prove time consuming and costly for all concerned.
Section 18.
We would be concerned that, if a building were to be deemed not
to be of listable quality and a certificate of immunity issued without
the benefit of a prior full survey by a buildings archaeologist,
it might make it difficult for historic building recording conditions
to 3 be attached subsequently to any planning consents for conversion/adaptation
etc. The owner/developer could potentially argue that the building
had been branded as not of any historical or architectural significance.
If this new power is put in place, we recommend that certificates
of immunity should have some form of statement saying that, although
the building in question may not be of listable quality as per Historic
Scotland criteria, it may nonetheless have historic elements/features/assets
which are very worthy of retention and/or recording, and that the
local authorities should be consulted before any demolition/significant
alteration is undertaken.
We have no
comments to offer on the Financial Assessment, the Partial Regulatory
Assessment, or the Equalities Assessment for the draft Bill.
Detailed
Comments on Matters Not Contained within the Bill
Our main concerns
are:
- the marginalisation
of the protection and management of the undesignated historic
environment resource in recent Scottish Government policy initiatives,
and
- the non-counterbalancing
of this by positive Scottish Government policy and guidance for
Sites and Monuments Records/Historic Environment Records.
We have already
provided detailed comments on the draft consolidated SPP. We are
principally concerned that the original wording in SPP 23 about
archaeological resources being a material consideration within the
planning process had been changed to make it weaker, and that all
references to local authorities maintaining Sites and Monuments
Records/Historic Environment Records had been dropped. We will not
know the results of the consultation exercise on the draft consolidated
SPP, and whether or not our consultation responses have been accepted,
until the autumn of this year, after the closing date for this consultation.
We also commented
upon the draft Joint Working Agreements between Historic Scotland
and Planning Authorities to the effect that no mention had been
made about the important local authority role in maintaining a Sites
and Monument Record/Historic Environment Record Service and in protecting
undesignated historic environment resources. We note that there
have been some changes to the wording of the finalised, and now
published Joint Working Agreement, for which we are grateful, but
we do not feel that these changes fully address our issues.
Should the
changes we have requested to the new consolidated SPP be put in
place, we may take some comfort from this, but until we see the
results of that consultation exercise, we feel we must raise again
the issue of statutory Sites and Monuments Record/Historic Environment
Record Services. It is an issue, which has been raised twice before
at different legislative opportunities. On both of these occasions
we were advised that non-statutory approaches would be taken to
address our concerns, for example, by amending NPPG 5. These have
not materialised in the way we would have hoped to see.
If the Scottish
Government were to work with us to develop and issue detailed standards
and guidance to local authorities for Sites and Monuments Record/Historic
Environment Record Services, we might be persuaded that this would
be a better option that the statutory route for the time being.
It may be that the much needed revision of Planning Advice Note
(PAN) 42 would provide an opportunity to explore this option - PAN
42 is currently the only document which provides a very limited
definition of a Sites and Monuments Record and it needs some serious
updating to bring it in line with modern approaches to such Records.
There may also be other opportunities, for example, by including
standards and guidance for Sites and Monuments Record/Historic Environment
Record Services within published Historic Scotland guidance.
We would be
very pleased to discuss this issue in detail with Planning Division,
Historic Scotland, and COSLA with a view to addressing our concerns
in a constructive manner.
Yours faithfully
Carol Swanson,
Chair ALGAO:Scotland
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