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Submission
from ALGAO:Scotland
J MacDonald
Deputy Chief Inspector
Historic Scotland Room
Longmore House
Salisbury Place
Edinburgh
EH9 1SH
18 September 2009
Dear Mr MacDonald
Consultation on the Implementation of the Removal of the Duty of Planning Authorities
to Notify Historic Scotland on Certain Types of Listed Building Consent Applications
ALGAO:Scotland represents Local Authority and National Park archaeological services in
Scotland and is part of the UK-wide organisation, ALGAO:UK. We do not wish to offer
comments directly to this Scottish Government consultation, as its contents do not affect the
business of our members in most cases. We do however wish to make a comment on the
wording of the model Joint Working Agreement itself.
ALGAO:Scotland had previously raised concerns about the absence of any references in the
model Joint Working Agreement to local authority responsibilities for protecting
undesignated historic environment resources, particularly archaeological resources, through
the planning process. We therefore very much welcome the inclusion of appropriate wording
in the model agreement to cover this matter, in particular the need for local authorities to have
access to appropriate specialist conservation advice, including archaeologists (Appendix 2 of
the model JWA). Appendix 2 also makes reference to authorities having access to an up to
date historic environment record.
Though we welcome the inclusion of references to the undesignated historic environment
resources within the model JWA, we are disappointed that the wording of the JWA does not
go far enough in establishing what is meant by appropriate expertise or an historic
environment record. We welcome the reference to membership of the Institute for
Archaeologists (IfA), but are concerned about the looseness of the rest of the wording – for
example the phrase “where existing staff have developed a sound understanding of historic
environment issues based only on experience” is particularly loose. We are also concerned
that the terms Historic Environment Record and Sites and Monuments Record are not
defined, or the differences between them explained. These terms already appear to mean
different things to different people in the absence of national guidance and standards.
In commenting on the revised Scottish Planning Policy, we drew attention to the fact that
Planning Advice Note 42 is well out of date. This is the only government document which
currently defines what is meant by a Sites and Monuments Record. Our perceptions of what is
involved in curating such a record have moved on considerably since PAN 42 was written.
We would very much welcome an update of PAN 42, perhaps to include the whole historic
environment, and would suggest that a new version of this advice note may be a good vehicle
for setting out in detail what is meant by appropriate specialist conservation advice and what
is required for an effective Historic Environment Record or Sites and Monuments Record.
ALGAO:Scotland would be very happy to discuss these matters further with Historic
Scotland and the Built Environment Division, along with our colleagues in IHBC.
Yours sincerely
Carol Swanson,
Chair ALGAO:Scotland
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