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Submission
from ALGAO:Cymru
Matthew Coward
Cadw
Welsh Assembly Government
Plas Garw
Nantgarw
CF15 7QQ
30/05/07
Dear Sir
HERITAGE
PROTECTION REVIEW: WHITE PAPER
I am responding
on behalf of the Association of Local Government Archaeological
Officers: Cymru (ALGAO:Cymru), the Welsh national group of the Association
of Local Government Archaeological Officers: UK (ALGAO:UK). The
Association provides a forum representing archaeologists working
for, and providing services to, local authorities and national parks
throughout the UK. In Wales its members are senior professional
archaeologists providing advice on archaeological conservation and
management including the provision of Historic Environment Records
and development control services to Unitary Authorities. The following
comments are provided on Sections 2 and 3 of the White Paper and
are supported by the ALGAO:UK Executive.
We welcome
the introduction of this White Paper and fully support its expressed
core principles and its aims to improve and enhance the protection
of Wales' historic assets. We believe there are merits to a unified
system and acknowledge that the proposals set out in the White Paper
should lead to a streamlined and improved approach.
The white paper,
although setting out shared aims, clearly identifies differences
in approach between England and Wales. We support and welcome the
opportunity that the white paper presents to develop a heritage
protection systems in Wales and England that suits their differences
both in structure and history, but it is important that any legislative
differences between England and Wales do not result in an increasing
and potentially unnecessary divergence between heritage protection
systems.
While Wales'
small size has enabled the development of strong partnerships and
excellent communication between heritage professionals there is
a lack of the economies of scale possible to its larger neighbour.
In the past it has been possible for Wales to benefit from developments,
standards and guidelines, training opportunities, and more, offered
in England and relevant to Wales. The potentially increasing differences
between systems in the two countries and scarce resources will reduce
those opportunities and could result in historic environment professionals
in Wales lacking the necessary support.
It is important
that the aim of achieving integrated and holistic historic environment
services should not be lost within any differences of delivery in
Wales. There are also potential problems for cross border historic
assets and there management.
The lack of
detail in Section 2 means that there is still a need for the Welsh
Assembly Government to clearly set out its proposals for Wales.
This will enable informed discussion on any fundamental differences
there may be, or whether any differences are in fact a matter of
timescales rather than substance. Any proposals from the WAG in
relation to future Assembly Measures will also require consultation
to ensure that stakeholders are fully engaged in developing systems
in Wales.
We are particularly
pleased to see the key role of the Welsh Archaeological Trusts'
regional Historic Environment Records identified. However, a fuller
explanation of their current and future roles in Section 2 would
have been beneficial.
From the white
paper it is unclear which aspects of the proposals for England will
be put in place in Wales. There is a lack of detail attached to
the proposals in Section 2 which in places makes it difficult to
see how, or indeed if, some of the measures will be enacted.
It is assumed
that these areas will receive further consideration and result in
additional legislation and guidance under the Government of Wales
Act or similar. We assume therefore that there will be future opportunities
for further changes to the heritage protection systems in Wales.
Supplementary consultation, with all elements of the heritage sector
in Wales, but in particular with the local authority historic environment
services including the archaeological services of the Welsh Archaeological
Trusts, is crucial for the development of a new heritage protection
system. It is important that decisions are taken quickly, and openly,
about which options to pursue within the new framework, and that
these should be agreed and the necessary legislative path timetabled
well before the new Act comes into force.
Section 2 does
not appear to concur with the Section 1 statement "We will support
sustainable communities by putting the historic environment at the
heart of an effective planning system". The proposed reforms only
directly address the protection of designated heritage. It is important
that the protection of nationally and locally designated assets
form part of a broader system, which recognises the context of these
designated assets and the other non-designated elements of our historic
environment.
Any future
heritage protection system needs to be based upon clear understanding
of the roles and remits of the various authorities, bodies, institutions
and heritage organisations that will be required to deliver the
system. Clearer definitions of, for example, Local Authority Historic
Environment Services, as has been proposed for England, will be
necessary.
Specific
Comments
Section
2 Protecting the Historic Environment in Wales
The New
System (paragraphs 15-19)
The creation of a single unified list for all historic assets,
as in England, will simplify the system for users and operators.
However, unlike in England it appears that the decision-making will
be divided between local authorities and Cadw. This will have the
effect in Wales of not creating a unified list but rather a Historic
Asset list with sub-categories of 'listed building' 'scheduled ancient
monument' etc. As separate processes scheduling and listing make
reference to their own separate published criteria for selection.
While both these systems have worked well in Wales and desire for
change is minimal, we support a move to review the selection criteria
and to produce a single set for use under a unified designation
system.
We support
the suggestion that all scheduled monuments, moving into a unified
designation system, attract a Grade I classification.
Designation
- how the system will work (paragraphs 20-24)
The lack of detail provided requires the form of the "new unified
statutory system" in Wales to be more clearly defined. While there
is merit in minimising the amount of physical change to the content
or structure of existing information, in the transfer to any new
system the failure to produce a truly unified single system, within
a reasonable timescale, would only serve to highlight all the current
distinctions between scheduled monuments and listed buildings that
the proposals seek to remove.
We support
the inclusion of historic battlefields in the new Register of Historic
Sites and Buildings. The registration of well located and delineated
battlefields (as opposed to the often more nebulous documentary
references to battles as historical events) within the new single
designation is highly desirable.
We also welcome
the intention to rationalize complex monuments currently protected
by multiple designations.
It is not clear
what the "appropriate safeguards" will be in practice that are alluded
to here, and whether these are to be replaced by a system of Interim
Protection as described in Section 1 (paragraphs 28-31). If these
are referring to 'spot-scheduling' powers and the issuing of Building
Preservation Notices, these will disappear with the outgoing legislation.
The failure to replace them with some form of interim protection
would surely be a loophole in a new designation system. While we
see the need to offer owners consultation on proposed designations,
it would seem appropriate to consult a range of relevant heritage
professionals as well as the local authority that may not have relevant
in-house expertise.
To be truly
independent, appeals must be considered by a person or persons wholly
un-involved in the designations process. In practice this must mean
the prior identification of suitably qualified individuals who might
be drawn upon as required, either singly or as a panel, to hear
such appeals. This would appear to all intents and purposes to be
the creation of an independent appeals body. The Planning Inspectorate
is not considered appropriate to fulfil this role. They lack sufficient
expertise to consider all aspects of the proposed new designations
system - their background being one of planning, not heritage.
Heritage
Protection and Planning (paragraphs 25-27)
Without further capacity building few local authorities presently
have appropriate expertise to deal with either Scheduled Monument
Consent or Listed Building Consent (although the Welsh Archaeological
Trusts would be able to provide an appropriate level of archaeological
expertise through enhanced service level agreements). Without additional
resources being made available this position is unlikely to change
radically before the envisaged introduction of the new measures.
It is noted that the option to delegate these powers to local authorities
will be left open.
There is no
clear statement in Section 2 about the introduction of a unified
consents procedure in the manner of the proposed Historic Assets
Consent outlined for England. Retention of control over consents
by Cadw under the new system must be a unified consent procedure
and not simply the present parallel systems. Retaining any distinction
between consents for 'scheduled monuments' and those for 'listed
buildings' will require these items to be distinguished (and in
all probability treated differently) within the new single Register,
which would be contrary to the intention of the proposed new measures.
Every effort
should be made to ensure that the new consents procedure is truly
unified and that it is seen to be a new and single system. One way
of reinforcing this may be the introduction of an on-line application
system for the new Consents procedure as identified in Section 1
(paragraph 23). It is to be hoped that Cadw would also adopt appropriate
consultation in determining consents under the proposed new system.
There is no
clear reference to how the planning system in Wales will link with
the designation consent system as is proposed for England. The latest
planning white paper in England indicates that the planning system
is likely to change there. It is important to ensure that whatever
planning system there may be in Wales that there is a clear integration
of any historic asset consent system into the broader planning framework.
Registered
Historic Parks and Gardens (paragraphs 28-29)
Consideration should be given to the inclusion of the Welsh Archaeological
Trusts in the lists of statutory consultees for applications dealing
with historic parks and gardens.
Local Designations
(paragraphs 31-32)
It is not clear how the proposed local designation lists might operate
or how they might facilitate the further safeguarding of distinctive
buildings. Appropriate consultation, with regional Historic Environment
Records, on planning applications effecting such buildings already
brings them "within the sphere of development control", and their
inclusion on a local list will add no additional protection within
the normal planning framework.
Planning permission
should therefore be required for demolition of locally designated
historic buildings in Wales. In line with proposals in England local
designations should also seek to include other types of historic
asset, not only buildings. Guidance should be agreed on how such
locally important assets should be identified and designated. Local
societies, community groups and the like could also prepare and
curate their own local lists through the HERs
There is no
statement in the Welsh chapter regarding Conservation Areas. It
is therefore assumed that no changes are proposed in Wales other
than that indicated in Question 1, which is fully supported.
Ecclesiastical
Exemption (paragraph 33)
We hope that any extension of the exemption, which may be considered
under the new system, will not lessen the protection of those 'church
assets' that are currently considered to be of national importance.
An asset falling within the exemption should not affect designation
decisions. With or without exemption all designated sites and buildings
in ecclesiastical control would make excellent early candidates
for Heritage Partnership Agreements.
Heritage Partnership
Agreements (paragraph 34)
We support the introduction of Heritage Partnership Agreements described
in Section 1. Clearly such agreements could considerably assist
the management of complex multiple sites, but they should not be
limited to these and should be implemented, as appropriate, across
the full range of sites and buildings.
We are concerned
that Section 2 appears to contain no indication of any intention
to remove Class Consent No 1. The case for this is clearly set out
in Section 1 (paragraphs 47-51) on the grounds that the continuation
of 'same depth' cultivation has caused demonstrable damage to a
significant number of nationally important monuments in England.
This case clearly extends to Wales, and yet it is not clear whether
this issue will be addressed here. We vigorously support the need
to remove Class Consent No 1 in Wales, and to replace it (albeit
gradually) with Heritage Partnership Agreements.
Characterisation
(paragraph 35)
The commitment to develop historic landscape characterisation is
welcome. We consider that it would have been useful for the white
paper to contain a paragraph (perhaps prior to para 35 on Characterisation)
acknowledging the existence of the Register of Historic Landscapes
in Wales and also the ASIDOHL guide to best practice.
Access to
Information (paragraphs 36-39)
While welcoming the intentions to improve access to information,
we note that there is no mention in Section 2 of the various initiatives
(to be found in Section 1) to introduce enhanced training, capacity
building and support for professionals and others expected to operate
and interact with the proposed new system. It would seem vital that
suitable programmes are introduced to address this inevitable skills
gap. In similar vein there will also need to be new guidance for
professional users of the new systems.
The regional
HERs of the Welsh Archaeological Trusts will play a key role in
the delivery of improved heritage protection, and we welcome and
strongly support the intention to place a statutory duty on local
authorities to adopt and support them. It should also be noted that
the local authority needs not just access to an HER, but access
to the expert opinion and advice of those who maintain and operate
the record. This issue is not merely one of access to a body of
data, it is also about the provision of a service at an agreed and
maintained level. There is also a need to ensure that local authorities
not only adopt and support their HERs but that they are also required
to consult them in a prescribed and appropriate way.
With statutory
'recognition', HERs will also need to meet defined standards in
order to fulfil their role. Agreement must be sought on such standards,
how they are to be achieved, and any necessary changes made, prior
to the introduction of the new measures.
We support
Cadw's intention to build on the Historic Wales web portal to facilitate
on-line access to Wales' historic environment data sets. Further
discussion on access to the Welsh HERs via this portal must be held
well in advance of the introduction of the proposed new measures.
Section
3 Protecting the marine historic environment in the UK
We support the intention to broaden the range of marine historic
assets to be protected, and to revise the criteria against which
they might be selected for designation.
We welcome
the intention to make information on Marine Historic Assets available
through the Wales Heritage Gateway (we assume this refers to the
Historic Wales portal discussed above). However, in order to achieve
this aim it will be necessary to accelerate the compilation and
distribution of the Welsh maritime database. Similarly, we welcome
the encouragement for all four of Wales' Historic Environment Records
to incorporate this marine data. However there will need to be further
discussion on the best way of achieving this aim so as best to avoid
double processing of data and double funding issues. Additional
support to assist the HERs to integrate marine data to inform management
decisions will need to be considered. Local Planning Authority remits
currently do not extend into the marine area and therefore there
will be no incentive for LAs to support the upkeep of marine records.
There is clearly an issue of responsibility for development control
advice within 'territorial waters' but outside the remit of the
local planning authority.
The following
comments are offered in response to the three specific questions
asked by the consultation.
Question
1
We support the merging of Conservation Area Consent with planning
permission, provided that the various safeguards currently offered
within Conservation Areas are maintained (or indeed improved upon)
by the planning system. The preservation of such safeguards would
be particularly important in the face of any future increase in
permitted development rights in Wales as for example outlined in
the recent DCLG White Paper Planning for a Sustainable Future.
Question
2
We fully support the provision of statutory guidance promoting pre-application
assessment and discussion for major planning applications effecting
historic assets. At present many applicants submit planning applications
without fully considering (or indeed fully appreciating) the potential
requirements of SMC or LBC or the needs of unscheduled and unlisted
assets, which might have been much better resolved at an earlier
stage. A requirement to resolve heritage issues at the earliest
possible opportunity, and in particular before they get into the
planning system, may considerably speed up the process, clarify
the relationship between planning and conservation in peoples minds,
and may well help to lessen conflicts between these two areas.
It would however
be necessary to define what is meant by major planning applications.
Clearly many infrastructure developments, such as road building
or power generation schemes, will have a significant impact on the
heritage because of their size but it is also true that smaller
schemes may have a disproportionately large impact because of the
importance of the assets they happen to impinge upon, and these
should also be catered for.
Question
3
We agree that an expansion of the current operation of Certificates
of Immunity, as outlined, may have advantages. However we would
wish to see specific discussion of how such a system would operate
in Wales before giving unqualified support. It would be particularly
important to underpin this expansion with an appropriately controlled
and rigorous mechanism for examining a site in question to ensure
that it had no heritage value prior to issuing a certificate.
We trust that
these comments are useful and constructive. Should you wish to discuss
any of the matters raised please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours sincerely
Louise Austin, Chair ALGAO:Cymru
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